Covid-19: Do many people have pre-existing immunity?

At least six studies have reported T cell reactivity against SARS-CoV-2 in 20% to 50% of people with no known exposure to the virus.5678910. If this can be confirmed, it would appear that many communities are very close to “herd immunity.”

The New Dark Age

22 October 2020 — BMJ

(Published 17 September 2020)

  1. Peter Doshi, associate editor

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It seemed a truth universally acknowledged that the human population had no pre-existing immunity to SARS-CoV-2, but is that actually the case? Peter Doshi explores the emerging research on immunological responses

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8 thoughts on “Covid-19: Do many people have pre-existing immunity?

  1. The immune system is a very interesting creature. I’ve been thinking about it in the past year or so.

    ‘How dare I,’ you say? Where are the gazillion titles after my name?

    I am of high intellect, have a nonlinear thought process, and am an abstract/visual thinker. I don’t just think outside the box, I live there. Now that we have my non-credential credentials out of the way, let’s talk about the immune system.

    I studied the immune system hard as a child, but I kept away from viruses. They were considered dead things, and I was into life.

    But in these troubled times, I’ve gone back to what I remember and am reconsidering a few things. What we dichotomously rule as viruses, perhaps, should not be.

    I’m nearing my 70th year and have had all those childhood illnesses. They were not scary, horrible things and were, for all intents and purposes, considered a rite of passage. Parents knew to expose us as children because of the dangers adults faced. I still remember being told to stay away from pregnant women when it came to Rubella [what we called German Measles]. We stayed home in quarentine because of the dangers to adults.

    I now believe these childhood illnesses are nothing more than training wheels for the immune system. They are our true vaccines. And they bestow benefits beyond the pale that manufactured shots cannot. Just because someone with a big bank account tells you you must buy shots does not mean you should.

    Since there is no test for this mysterious virus, how can we determine which end is up? It’s obvious efforts are being made by nefarious folks to scare us into more shots by exploding numbers with fairy-dust science.

    It is completely possible that these dasterdly RNA particles they say are deadly are simply part of us–they are there–they always will be–and they will be used as a weapon against humanity.

    Let’s make sure that doesn’t happen.


    • I must admit, Joyce, that your comment made me chuckle. You do have a really unique way of looking at the topic. In recent years, I’ve developed a strong interest in the role of intestinal bacteria in immunity. There is strong evidence of a correlation between high diversity of bacteria and immunity. This is ominous for city dwellers, who apparently only have half the bacteria of people who live on farms. I’m inclined to suspect this relates to water chlorination. There is also growing evidence linking the chlorinated organic compounds that form to cancer.

      In my local area, I’m campaigning strongly for a new form of disinfection when they rebuild the water treatment facility. We’re talking about a 100 year old technology, and there are better methods now.

      What really drives me crazy about the RT-PCR testing is that the mainstream media is refusing to report on the number of (replication) cycles testing labs are using. Local epidemiologists here in New Zealand are insistent that the test ceases to be reliable (due to false positives) after 33-34 replications. Yet many jurisdictions here and overseas are routinely counting tests with 45 cycles as positive.

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      • Yes–very true and yet another factor in disease models. The microbiome has also been called the second brain. It is said to produce neurotransmitters.

        You might want to take a peek at Dr. Stephanie Seneff’s work regarding glyphosate’s disastrous impact on the microbiome. I wrote a short and easy clip of it here:

        I attempt to make it palatable [if you can call it that] so that it is easy to digest [no pun intended.]


          • Glyphosate has ended up in most items on grocery store shelves and even pharmaceutical products. Seventy-five % of our air and water are contaminated with glyphosate.

            I hate to say it, but spraying parks and playgrounds are the least of our problems. Even if a crop is not GMO [wheat, for instance–our bread] there is what is called a desiccation process.

            Take wheat. When it is harvest-ready, Round-up is sprayed on those crops to kill and ripen it. We consume enough Round-up to destroy our useful microbiome quickly.

            We need Federal Regulatory Agencies that work for the people–not industry.

            Oh no–I’m on another roll now–I’ll go away and tape my hands to the chair…

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