California ER Physicians: Sheltering in Place Does More Harm than Good – Lowers Our Immune System

by Brian Shilhavy
Editor, Health Impact News

Doctors Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi of Accelerated Urgent Care in Kern County, California refuse to wear masks outside. They say the longer people stay inside, the more their immune system drops.

Local NBC News affiliate KGET in Bakersfield interviewed the two doctors this week (April 2020), and the video of the interview was posted on their Facebook Page where it has already been viewed by almost 3 million people at the time of this publication.

Will Facebook remove it, since these doctors disagree with other health authorities? We are publishing the YouTube version below, although Google is censoring views like this on YouTube also, so it will be interesting to see if they censor something a corporate-sponsored “mainstream” media source has published at the local affiliate in Bakersfield, California.

The doctors are reportedly the owners of the largest testing site in Kern County, California. They’ve tested over 5000 people already for COVID-19.

Some quotes from the doctors:

We both have had extensive classes in microbiology and biochemistry and immunology. We’ve studied this for each of us 20 years.

And we take everything that we’re seeing today, and put that against that back drop and say: “Does this make sense?”

Are we following the science? We keep hearing “following the science.”

What is the science essentially? It’s the study of the natural world for experiment through observation.

So that’s what we’re doing. We’re studying the disease around us, or making observations.

We’re doing testing experiments to figure out exactly what’s on.

And so this has caused some severe disruption for Accelerated as we have people coming in 7 a.m. until midnight.

They continue:

Typically you quarantine the sick. When someone has measles, you quarantine them.

We’ve never seen where we quarantine the healthy, where you take those without disease, and without symptoms, and lock them in (their) home.

Based on the volume of data they have collected and observed over the past two months, they say:

Does it necessitate the shut down, loss of jobs, destruction of the oil companies (Bakersfield is a big producer of petroleum), furloughing doctors?

If you have no symptoms, you should be able to return to work. Are you an asymptomatic virus shedder? Maybe. But we can’t test all of humanity.

Is the flu less dangerous than COVID? Let’s look at the death rates. No, its not. They’re similar in prevalence and death rate.

Regarding sheltering in place:

As I shelter in place, my immune system drops. You keep me there for months, it drops more.

The secondary effects, the child abuse, alcoholism, loss of revenue – all of these are, in our opinion, significantly more detrimental thing to society than a virus that has proven similar in nature to the seasonal flu that we have every year […]

 

via California ER Physicians: Sheltering in Place Does More Harm than Good – Lowers Our Immune System

18 thoughts on “California ER Physicians: Sheltering in Place Does More Harm than Good – Lowers Our Immune System

  1. “The secondary effects, the child abuse, alcoholism, loss of revenue – all of these are, in our opinion, significantly more detrimental thing to society than a virus that has proven similar in nature to the seasonal flu that we have every year”

    well, as they say, d’uh! how come our “leaders” dont know this? this is the most asinine reckless inept policy ive ever seen. like trying to kill a fly with a sledge hammer.

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    • Nomad, I clearly believe there is an ulterior motive here – not sure exactly what it is – though I’ve heard a number of theories. To scare people into accepting microchipped vaccines (as Bill Gates proposes), to cover the fact that the economy is tanking anyway, to drive small businesses and corporations out of businesses to benefit hedge fund owners?

      I think the 2 California doctors make 2 important points, though – to safely lift the lockdown, we must have more effective testing and contact tracing, we must quarantine at home all those who test positive and contacts of those who test positive and all “vulnerable” populations and we must have more information about treatments that are being offered so COVID19 can make some informed choices.

      I personally would add the requirement that iv Vitamin C be available for everyone who wants it, as that seems to have the best track record so far.

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  2. Good article, nomad. Great find. The BBC has just started reporting on nursing home patients who are dying from reasons other than COVID19. Apparently in the UK, you can no longer get surgery if you have appendicitis – the risk of contracting COVID19 is too high both for patients and medical staff. They just treat you with antibiotics.

    Another big risk of keeping the lockdown going too long is that if people get hungry enough, they will just start looting and burning stuff down.

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    • Stuart, am I wrong in thinking that if you have not been in contact with an infected person and have not been travelling recently and show no symptoms and have possibly even been tested, am I wrong in thinking that these people are not supposed to stay in lockdown 24/7? They can go out to exercise in fresh air and they can go shopping for essentials! They just have to keep a certain distance from others. And if you earn your living to do an ‘essential’ job, you are allowed and even urged to do this as long as you have not contracted the virus or show any symptoms of being sick.
      Of course it is hard for people who have lost their jobs because of the lockdown. These people may find it hard to spend a lot of time at home. But I think people who have absolutely no symptoms of being sick are allowed to look for jobs that are essential for keeping us alive!

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      • It’s a complicated question, Aunty. Back in March, when the virus first started spreading, people thought it was a lot more virulent than it turns out to be. It now seems that 80-90% of people infected with it have only really mild infections. For the most part, most of the deaths seem to have occurred in frail elderly people and people with pre-exisitting conditions, such as obesity, diabetes, heart disease, and/or respiratory disease.

        What these doctors are saying is that a better way to protect the 10-20% of people who are vulnerable to severe illness and death with COVID19 infection is to quarantine them rather than healthy people.

        Unfortunately many essential workers have pre-existing conditions, especially obesity, asthma, and diabetes. If they are required to work, they need to be given full protective clothing, including face shields and full length gowns, trousers, and shoe protectors that they take off and discard between patients. This is essential because most people are able to harbor (and shed) the virus without any evidence of infections.

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  3. Thanks, Stuart. Your reply makes absolute sense to me. I think sooner or later scientists, community workers and politicians are going to work all this out. Peter and I are very aware that we are very vulnerable for our age related symptoms could very well be Coronavirus symptoms. On top of this Peter has cancer and serious heart problems. We still go shopping for essentials and sdometimes have ‘unavoidable’ appointments, but we are always careful not to mingle with people. On our outside walks we never approach people or let people come close to us. Where we walk on the grass of some soccer fields at the back of our property with a lot of trees in the area it is very easy to avoid people for hardly any people are around, and they spread over a large area.
    Still, if unknowingly, we catch the virus, we do not want to give it to any other person. This why we think social distancing is very important. Two of our children for instance are over 60. I think that makes them kind of vulnerable. One of them is able to work from home now. Another younger one is also working from home, as are some of the grandchildren. Well, we can only hope, that if some do catch the virus, they’ll be able to survive it!

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    • If you or Peter believe you have COVID19 (or influenza), I strongly recommend you try the baking soda cure – it worked really well for me 3 months ago with a really bad cold. The dose recommended is

      Day 1: 1/2 tsp 6 times a day
      Day 2: 1/2 tsp 4 times a day
      Day 3: 1/2 tsp 2 times a day
      Day 4 on: 1/2 tsp daily till symptoms gone

      If possible, try to take it on an empty stomach (1 hr before and at least 2 hrs after meals)

      My cold was totally gone in 1 1/2 days when I did this. The first time ever this has happened. Normally all my colds go into my chest as bronchitis.

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  4. I am glad, Stuart, that this baking soda cure helped you. I doubt that I would be brave enough to try it. But Peter and I were lucky that so far we could avoid a very bad cold by taking olive leave extract and lots of vitamins, especially Vitamin C. We sometimes have a bit of a cough or sneezing and a bit of a running nose. And we always have to watch it to get enough fresh air to help our breathing. After a lot of sitting we find it difficult to do a bit of walking, whereas walking does tire us a lot and we need the support of a walking stick or walking frame and we have to sit down soon to have some rest! Peter uses his spray under the tongue to help his breathing before he goes for his ten minute brisk walk in the morning.

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